• whotookkarl@lemmy.world
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    48 minutes ago

    Copyrights should have never been extended longer than 5 years in the first place, either remove draconian copyright laws or outlaw LLM style models using copyrighted material, corpos can’t have both.

  • psyspoop@lemm.ee
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    But I can’t pirate copyrighted materials to “train” my own real intelligence.

  • rageagainstmachines@lemmy.world
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    2 hours ago

    “We can’t succeed without breaking the law. We can’t succeed without operating unethically.”

    I’m so sick of this bullshit. They pretend to love a free market until it’s not in their favor and then they ask us to bend over backwards for them.

    Too many people think they’re superior. Which is ironic, because they’re also the ones asking for handouts and rule bending. If you were superior, you wouldn’t need all the unethical things that you’re asking for.

  • Treczoks@lemmy.world
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    So pirating full works for commercial use suddenly is “fair use”, or what? Lets see what e.g. Disney says about this.

  • Daelsky@lemmy.ca
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    Where are the copyright lawsuits by Nintendo and Disney when you need them lol

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    If I’m using “AI” to generate subtitles for the “community” is ok if i have a large “datastore” of “licensable media” stored locally to work off of right?

  • TORFdot0@lemmy.world
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    What if we had taken the billions of dollars invested in AI and invested that into public education instead?

    Imagine the return on investment of the information being used to train actual humans who can reason and don’t lie 60% of the time instead of using it to train a computer that is useless more than it is useful.

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      But you have to pay humans, and give them bathroom breaks, and allow them time off work to spend with their loved ones. Where’s the profit in that? Surely it’s more clever and efficient to shovel time and money into replacing something that will never be able to practically develop beyond current human understanding. After all, we’re living in the golden age of humanity and history has ended! No new knowledge will ever be made so let’s just make machines that regurgitate our infallible and complete knowledge.

  • stopforgettingit@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    God forbid you offer to PAY for access to works that people create like everyone else has to. University students have to pay out the nose for their books that they “train” on, why can’t billion dollar AI companies?

  • Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    If your business model only works if you break the Law, that mean’s you’re just another Organised Crime group.

  • patrick@lemmy.bestiver.se
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    I don’t think they’re wrong in saying that if they aren’t allowed to train on copyrighted works then they will fall behind. Maybe I missed it in the article, but Japan for example has that exact law (use of copyright to train generative AI is allowed).

    Personally I think we need to give them somewhat of an out by letting them do it but then taxing the fuck out of the resulting product. “You can use copyrighted works for training but then 50% of your profits are taxed”. Basically a recognition that the sum of all copyrighted works is a societal good and not just an individual copyright holders.

    https://jackson.dev/post/generative-ai-and-copyright/

  • sloppychops@lemmy.ca
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    If everyone can ‘train’ themselves on copyrighted works, then I say "fair game.‘’

    Otherwise, get fucked.