• Kichae@lemmy.caEnglish
    3·
    3 months ago

    I don’t know. I don’t want to play apologetics for the tankies, but showing up in a tankie community and telling them that they’re supporting fascism just sounds like trolling to me. You know what you’re doing, and them taking the bait isn’t power tripping.

  • Telorand@reddthat.com
    2·
    3 months ago

    YDI. That statement is overbroad, and the mods were right to hand out a ban for baiting people into an argument, especially since Tankies ≠ Anarchists in the first place.

    Also, your conclusion is a non sequitur.

    • finitebanjo@lemmy.worldOP
      02·
      3 months ago

      Nobody argued with me, my comment was +12 -4 with no replies.

      And the community wouldnt remove a comment insulting Tankies unless the community was Tankies. Read their sidebar, it’s an “anticapitalist” community.

        • finitebanjo@lemmy.worldOP
          01·
          3 months ago

          It insults Tankies, that’s not trolling that’s rationality at its finest, and should be a core pillar of any true anarchy.

            • finitebanjo@lemmy.worldOP
              01·
              3 months ago

              People who promote authoritarian regimes such as Joseph Stalin’s USSR and Mao Zedong’s CCP.

              It comes from describing people who sided with the Tanks in 1989 Tiananmen Square Massacre where a reporter recorded a video of a tank flattening a protester who stood in their way, during nationwide unrest across China which resulted in millions of deaths as the CCP used military directly on its own citizens. It was recorded by journalists from all over the world and led to global sanctions against China from many many nations. It also coincided with roughly the fall of the USSR.

              They’re a huge problem here on Lemmy because there are state funded campaigns with troll farms and bots actively promote chaos and destruction in nations that oppose modern day Russia, North Korea, Iran, and China. Their main choice of weapon is pretending to be promoters of communism, anarchism, and liberation of minorities standing against the evil corruption of capitalism, when in practice they don’t support communism or oppose capitalism by definition and those words just mean “their homeland” and “western government” respectively. They call NATO, the worlds largest defence pact and main deterrent from Chinese and Russian expansion, a form of “US Imperialism that oppresses others.”

              Tankies want war. They don’t care about minorities or civil rights. They want us to harm ourselves and our nations so that their nation can become stronger.

      • Telorand@reddthat.com
        1·
        3 months ago

        Ratio is meaningless. Communities are not democracies, and mods have every right to ensure people don’t get into bad-faith arguments. Additionally, some instances have downvotes turned off and some users don’t bother with them even if they’re on. Votes are necessarily a biased sample, so pointing to your ratio is about as useful as saying, “But look how many chocolate coins I got!”

        Anyway, removing a comment about Tankies doesn’t mean you support Tankies, especially when it’s obvious ragebait. “You don’t agree with me, therefore you’re against me” is irrational.

        Also, anticapitalist ≠ Tankie, just as being a communist or socialist or anarchist isn’t equivalent. It just means you don’t like capitalism. How that perspective is expressed in each community will vary, and just because Tankies don’t like capitalists doesn’t mean that it follows that everyone who doesn’t like capitalists is also a Tankie.

        • finitebanjo@lemmy.worldOP
          01·
          3 months ago

          There was no argument as you implied, I just made a comment which was perfectly aligned with the community and post it was made on but perfectly disaligned with the Tankie mods.

          • Telorand@reddthat.com
            1·
            3 months ago

            Right. There was no argument, because the mods prevented one.

            If you feel their actions were unjust, bring it up with the mods. Make your case, and appeal their decision. Based on your other comments, however, it just seems like you’re looking for sympathy.

  • technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com
    0·
    3 months ago

    Attacking tankies in an anarchist (anti-tankie) sub with a wacky (racist) conspiracy about (not anarchist) china supporting nazis?

    Worth banning.