I do mean stuff like removed scenes from international airings, replacing objects like cigarettes or vine with any other objects.

  • MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml
    27·
    5 days ago

    Warriors of the Wind (edited Nausicaä from the Valley of the Wind), can’t have ecological and pacifist messages, must replace it with dumb good against bad. This was one of the major mask down moments of the US for me.

    Edit: my bad, tv show, not film.

    • rowdyrockets@lemm.ee
      7·
      5 days ago

      Wait - I had this on DVD and loved it as a kid. I watched the English dub of course because my 10yo brain didn’t have the patience for reading subs.

      I remember a strong ecological and pacifistic message. What was changed?

      • MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml
        14·
        5 days ago

        Machine translated from german wikipedia (english one is less comprehensive on that but has other details):

        New World Pictures acquired the US rights to Nausicaä in 1985. For a children’s film release under the title Warriors of the Wind, they shortened the anime by more than 23 minutes, or about a fifth of its total length. The ecological and pacifist message was removed and replaced with a battle of good against evil.[11] The names were also changed, with “Princess Sandra” now fighting against evil “Gorgon monsters.” This US version also made its way to Europe, where it was released in France by Aprovision as La Princesse des Etoiles and in German by UFA in 1986 as Sternenkrieger, both on VHS.

        English Wikipedia;

        The Manson cut was derided by Miyazaki, and led to Ghibli’s “no cuts” rule for future international releases. It was eventually replaced in circulation by an uncut, redubbed version produced by Walt Disney Pictures in 2005.

        • rowdyrockets@lemm.ee
          12·
          5 days ago

          It was eventually replaced in circulation by an uncut, redubbed version produced by Walt Disney Pictures in 2005.

          Okay thank the gods, I must have had this one. That would place me about 10yo, and I definitely don’t remember any “gorgon monsters”. Thanks for the context! I’m relieved now haha

        • andros_rex@lemmy.world
          7·
          5 days ago

          “No cuts” come from someone at Ghibli being so pissed about the butchering that they gave Weinstein a fake katana to let them know not to fuck with Mononoke.

          Suzuki knew of a small, hard-to-find store in Tokyo hidden away underneath the train tracks between Shinbashi and Yurakucho. It was where Japanese film studios bought the realistic-looking weapons used in Japanese samurai movies. Suzuki picked out a sword there and brought it with him to New York for our meeting with Harvey. It was a very convincing replica of a Japanese samurai sword. It was realistic in every detail except that the blade was not sharp, which you could not tell unless you got a good, close look at it.

          These were still the days when you could bring a samurai sword with you in your carry-on luggage on a commercial flight from Tokyo to New York. Suzuki presented the sword to Harvey in a conference room full of horrified Miramax employees. One of them later approached me and said, “You gave Harvey a SWORD? Are you CRAZY?”

          When Suzuki presented Harvey with the sword, Suzuki shouted in English and in a loud voice, “Mononoke Hime, NO CUT!”

    • andros_rex@lemmy.world
      4·
      5 days ago

      Something very similar happened to Angel’s Egg/Tenshi no Tomago. This slow, meandering, beautiful existential art film about how hopeless it is to be alive. (Like, the only real talking in the story is a telling of the Noah’s Ark story where God leaves and the bird doesn’t come back)

      It’s probably one of the best films ever made - as profound as anything by Tarkovsky.

      So of course an American director cut it with random bits of live action, dubbed some dialogue in, and made it a shitty post apocalyptic movie.