• chingadera@lemmy.world
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    6 days ago

    I’m not going to touch the aliens part of that because that would require more data than exists publically, at least right now.

    I will talk about UFOs/UAP though, because there are quite a bit of data points on that.

    This is a historical record and culmination of what our different government agencies had to turn over by law:

    https://www.archives.gov/research/topics/uaps

    Which was a product of

    https://www.congress.gov/amendment/118th-congress/senate-amendment/797/text

    And that is only what the US has been able to bring forth so far legally against the will of the DoD.

    France has a pretty public office/project as well.

    https://thedebrief.org/the-new-director-of-geipan-frances-official-uap-investigative-office-discusses-science-and-the-study-of-aerial-mysteries/

    So does Japan.

    https://thedebrief.org/japan-launches-uap-investigation-following-u-s-report-identifying-region-as-hotspot-for-sightings/

    There are serious people working on this, and it’s not from word of mouth, dismissing it that way tells me you’ve refused to look at the data yourself.

    This subject is an absolutely dumpster fire filled with misinfo and disinfo, but there is still solid data.

    • WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works
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      6 days ago

      I have seen this stuff. You make the mistake of forgetting that governments are just made of people; they’re not some vast all powerful entity with godlike powers. You’ve linked to a few vast databases of blurry dots and parallax errors.

      Volume of noise does not evidence make. Bureaucraties keep records on everything. Every time a pilot sees some smudge in the sky they can’t ID, they file a report. That’s what these archives you’ve linked to are.

      And really, what are you thinking? You can’t seriously make case for something by telling your audience, “here, look at this website or thousands of low quality records.” You just told me to go read a library of garbage. If there’s anything real or convincing in there, try showing people that. Just because people see a bunch of stuff they can’t ID in the sky does not mean there’s something odd going on. It’s the sky. It’s hard to ID things at unknown distance against a featureless background.

      All you have is a library of noise. That isn’t evidence; it’s spam.

      • chingadera@lemmy.world
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        5 days ago

        Although I still feel like you’re being overly dismissive, let’s talk about this case in particular, it remains unexplained, and it does have an obvious anomaly in it.

        https://youtu.be/tf1uLwUTDA0

        Nothing we have or have publicly released info on matches the behavior of this object, that goes for any nation.

        People have tried to explain it away with parallax and the IR sensor itself rotating, but those don’t hold up to scrutiny.

        It really doesn’t matter how you look at this subject it’s interesting no matter the explanation, it’s got government transparency issues, possible/probable misspending issues, it’s a psyop, we’ve dropped the ball on technology/we have the tech, people up to thousands at a time are having mass hallucinations. To shrug it off as a couple of mistakes being made or a couple of people being crazy is irresponsible imo.