• lennybird@lemmy.world
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    17 days ago

    Ok but I just want to clarify before we valiantly and romantically take the fight to fascists…

    … Did you muster the courage to vote for Harris, return2ozma?

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      17 days ago

      Did you muster the courage to vote for Harris, return2ozma?

      No. I said I wouldn’t vote for a genocider multiple times throughout the year too. I’m in California so my POTUS vote had zero effect. I voted for everything else and left POTUS blank. Trump won in a landslide. Even if single issue voters about Gaza 100% voted for Harris, she still would have lost.

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        17 days ago

        If down votes were votes, maybe Harris would have won in the swing states, and not California where your vote literally didn’t impact anything, except local elections.

        Don’t let them gaslight you into thinking that you somehow personally swayed every swing state to Trump’s fascism, while they stick their head in the sand of how Harris lost and why.

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          17 days ago

          Last week a dude was swearing to me that Kamala lost because of the “I did that” Biden stickers

          Jesus fuck

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    17 days ago

    Ok, so serious answer for our friends who don’t live in places without an active culture of protest:

    1. Vote. No, really. If people actually fucking voted, we wouldn’t be in this mess.

    2. Give money to advocacy organizations

    3. Give your time and money to mutual aid organizations

    4. Read the news (not just on lemmy either)

    5. CALL your congresspeople. Emails and letters are better than nothing, but do not have the same impact.

    6. Try to get your friends to do #1-5

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      16 days ago

      Vote. No, really. If people actually fucking voted, we wouldn’t be in this mess.

      Trump won with the popular vote.

      A key element to defeat things like fascism, which build themselves on the popularity of fear, is that voting can’t be free-for-all. Voting should require, or be weighed with, some sort of licensing, testing of sane mind, awareness and understanding of at least current events, review of known association with dangerous anti-society parties, etc.

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        A key element to defeat things like fascism, which build themselves on the popularity of fear, is that voting can’t be free-for-all. Voting should require, or be weighed with, some sort of licensing, testing of sane mind, awareness and understanding of at least current events, review of known association with dangerous anti-society parties, etc.

        This is inherently anti-democratic. Who decides who’s qualified to vote? Is it you, with your infallible understanding of every issue?

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          Me? Aaaahahaha lol no. If I can’t solve this problem I should also not be put in charge of what happens after the solution, ya know.

          As for how to solve it: again, no idea. But that does not remove the fact that it’s an actual problem. Another option would be to allow everyone to vote but weigh the votes on what differently, but I’m sure it’s just about another flavour of the same intrinsic limitation. But it’s defo not something “anti-democratic”: for a system to actually represent and help people, it has to somehow prevent them from shoot their own legs off. If the system allows leg chopping, then those who already have an advantage due to more resources, more reach or more entrenched power, are going to have more, not less, of an advantage once legs start chopping.