I don’t expect this to play particularly well here, and maybe I’m just being conspiratorial, but here goes:
I banned jordanlund@lemmy.world from !transgender@lemmy.blahajzone earlier today- he literally posted a matt walsh youtube link and was being otherwise transphobic in a space where that gets you banned. (link)
one of jordanlunds removed comments w/ matt walsh video:
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the reason I put down was ‘trolling about neopronouns’ I stand by that, it was violating instance rules and was unacceptable behavior from a moderator of another instance.
Shortly after that I got banned from news@lemmy.world for ‘trolling’. To be clear, jordanlund does not moderate news@lemmy.world, but the timing struck me as an odd coincidence.
The .world thread in question (link)
I was expressing my actual opinion/position on this, if anything the post I was replying to should be considered a rule 1 violation implying leftists are russian/under russian sway:
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The removed comments that I was banned (permanent) for were just me being earnest about my position, which you’re welcome to disagree with.
I don’t view protecting my rights as something worth sacrificing other people for, even if they’re on the other side of the planet. You can be mad at me or hate me for that, but I’m not trolling.
People replying felt it was reasonable to call me an idiot for example, yet another example of selective moderation. on .world.
I don’t have any conclusive proof that my banning Jordanlund and then getting banned are related other than the suspicious timing, I welcome clarification.
Anyway in the interest of neutrality and transparency I submit both my ban and jordanlunds for review.
Every other instance should defederate from .world. Neoliberal fascism is no better than regular fascism.
Since when are they neoliberal? I encounter more bleeding heart progressives on that instance than anywhere else. Sorry they don’t pass your purity test but they sure as fuck hate fascists.
Edit: ohhhh haha, I just checked your instance. Yea no wonder they aren’t leftie enough for you, go home tankie 👋
Hello red scare. It’s getting tiring.
You’re a lot of things, but not scary.
Okay I guess? I never wanted to be scary lol
I think you do, you want peoples disgust of you to be dismissed as irrational. But it has nothing to do with “red scare”, it’s just that you are really, really gross.
Yeah it’s pretty disgusting to write such a comment about me specifically apparently. Everyone to the left of Biden is a commie and that equals a tankie. /s You sir are blocked.
Well no, there’s a lot of decent non-tanky positions left of biden, but you definitely are one. It’s a pretty unique perspective that liberals are fascists, you only hear something that dumb from the tips of the horseshoe.
I’m beginning to think that .world should be avoided. Not defederated, but mirror subs should be started on other instances and everyone who doesn’t like this attitude / activity should deliberately boycott .world subs in favor of the alternatives.
Somewhat of an aside, I think this sort of behavior is far worse than what got everybody up in arms about Hexbear. I never disliked Hexbears; I see them as a tight-knit community that existed for multiple years before the Lemmy influx from the old site. I think they genuinely felt despair over the changes that federation brought to their instance and I feel sorry for them. Maybe if people make enough noise about the bad behavior of .world mods we can raise awareness and effect change.
Isn’t FlyingSquid a mod there? They cooperate with one another, so if you cross one you cross both.
But yeah, doesn’t surprise me. Jordan is the same white dude who said he didn’t support BLM because protests inconvenienced him. He’s a peak liberal Zionist.
Why are you bringing up his race at all as it is his views that are objectionable not his skin tone.
Have a look at the article yourself: https://www.opb.org/news/series/racenw/race-northwest-united-states-jordan-lund-portland/
goddamn, this is so bad I thought I was reading satire about a made-up random white man in Portland
It’s not my fault white dudes tend to be the only people complaining about civil rights. If you don’t like people stating facts, then maybe turn on Fox News or sub to Trump on his social media. Then you won’t have to worry about it anymore.
I used to think neo-pronouns are kinda silly, and I guess I still kinda do. But there’s no skin off my back to address people in a way that they don’t find hurtful. If people tell me my actions are hurtful to them, I try and take them at face value so long as doing so wouldn’t be hurtful to others or myself. Seems like basic conscientiousness to me.
PTB. You did nothing wrong here.
My beef with neo pronouns is they are used in such a way to weaponize the “political correctness” attitude of some liberal communities
Drag is a good example because they’re a blatant troll, and pretty blatantly try to get anyone who disagrees with them about anything banned for being “transphobic”
Like it’s an obvious bit, it makes the mods and admins look like fools. Drag got banned from hexbear AND .ml for this behavior.
Drag got banned from hexbear AND .ml
Since when are bans from those instances any kind of reference?
It’s the reason they got banned that’s important, both .ml and hexbear are pretty lgbtq inclusive, and they love a good troll. But they wouldn’t tolerate drag.
Why are people so mad about someone using “drag” as a pronoun?
Is it hurting drag? No. Is it hurting anyone else? No.
I have also seen people say drag is a troll. I cant confirm nor deny that since i have only seen a couple of drags comments, but most people who have said something bad about dragonrider talk about the pronouns, not the person
“I identify as a dragon fucker” feels a lot like “I identify as an attack helicopter.”
I hate how quick world is to mass downvote, accuse of being a russian troll, or just straight up remove comments from people who express any sort of actual left-wing opinion. Reading through that whole comment thread there was nothing you said that came across as trolling. Its kinda exhausting how many people take any criticism of the democratic party as being support for Trump, or believe voting is the most important and only way to change anything. I get closer to just blocking world entirely every day tbh.
I hate how quick world is to mass downvote, accuse of being a russian troll, or just straight up remove comments from people who express any sort of actual left-wing opinion
They’ll actually form packs of downvoters to team up and track you to downvote. I’d get downvoted in .world, then every single post after that, even my non-political/non-controversial ones would get massively downvoted.
One guy even wrote a program tracking me, then publicly offered it to others to track and downvote me. (thanks @pooperNickel@lemm.ee)
All because I voted third party in the election!! lolololol
Why the fuck do you keep tagging me? You’re obsessed
I actually chuckled when I saw this because I have had you tagged as “UM obsessed”. You guys are a cute couple!
I’m doesn’t matter anymore. Across the world, trump simps like UM were shielded and the propaganda did its job. And now we’re fucked. Enjoy your chuckle about it
Your first sentence has some error on it. Should the first word be it?
Meh, I didn’t vote for Trump. So don’t blame his election on me, friend. Thanks!
Yes you did liar. Can you tell mom to bring you some napkins?
Nah, I didn’t. I voted third party. Remember? That’s why you were so mad and bragged about writing a program to track me.
.world thinks if you give reasoned arguments, reputable sources, and have a logical criticism of a liberal, you’re actually just a Russian bot, China shill, trump stan, or whatever it is this week.
Being morally consistent is a negative to them and must be punished.
I love how being a liberal is looked down on for some reason.
This is a genuine question, not some sorta gotcha or anything. What’s your opinion on the “enlightened centrist” style of centrists in the US? The sort of people that say things like “both the Democrats and Republicans are too extreme.”
Those aren’t centrists. They’re right-wing.
Of course it you who posts this. Lol, trolling is accurate it’s even what you’ve tried to do with this post itself. From what you showed us, Jordan was literally nowhere near being transphobic and was simply calling the bizarre troll a troll. “Neopronoun” isn’t a word that means “you will call me a dragon or else you’re transphobic”, probably because “dragon” isn’t nor will it ever be a gender
Jordan straight up posted a matt walsh/libs of tiktok video as a derisive jab, posting transphobic shit gets you banned.
If you’re unwilling to call people by what they ask to be called on a trans instance you’re gonna get banned.
He obviously was equating that behavior in the video with that dragon fucker troll. And we all know you know that, including you. I’m familiar with your tactics: pretending that some keyword or mention of something proves a bad thing about the person saying it. It’s fucking lazy and not credible…
Being a dragon cosplayer troll is completely unrelated to being trans, unless … Are you implying trans people are making it up too? That is the truly disgusting implication here.
I think your real problem with Jordan is that after months of letting universalmonk poison Lemmy with pro trump propaganda, he finally fucking banned him.
He obviously was equating that behavior in the video with that dragon fucker troll.
Yes, it very was obvious, that’s why he got banned for transphobia.
Are you implying trans people are making it up too?
I’m trans, I have no issue with anyone pushing the bounds on gender. Gender is part of oppressive systems to be dismantled in any way possible, not something to respect the ‘norms’ of.
I think your real problem with Jordan is that after months of letting universalmonk poison Lemmy with pro trump propaganda, he finally fucking banned him.
🙄 I suggest stepping away from the computer and going outside
Gender and dragon pretend times aren’t related. Hilarious I’m the one that needs to touch grass here 😂
Calling this remotely related to transphobia will always be absurd
Calling this remotely related to transphobia will always be absurd
Considering the same sort of shitlords are consistently complaining about this, it seems like a great litmus test.
World is an absolute cancer on Lemmy, its filled with ShitLibs who hold on to their Reddit mentality. If Blahaj defederated from world absolutely nothing of value would be lost.
You shouldn’t judge an entire group of people, by the tag on their names.
I was the one that submitted the ban, after a number of reports. On the face of it (I am at work, so don’t always have time to deep dive), The reports did seem to align with trolling.
I had/have no idea what’s going on withe the Jordan Lund thing.
I know Matt Walsh is a complete and utter tool, but what was the video Jordan linked (url doesn’t work when I copy it)? Just wondering about the context. I do think drag is probably a troll, but I understand Ada’s position and I don’t think there’s a point to arguing over it anymore, especially whilst on blahaj.
I don’t find your comments in news to be trolling at all.
the link in question: CW transphobia
