Oh I sorry I just realised you don’t actually understand.
See in pretty much every “first world country” we use direct presidential elections and if the US did too, the result of those elections would’ve been different.
Not the “will of the people”.
The US isn’t a democracy. (And republics are types of democracies btw)
Small rural states have an outsized impact as long as a candidate has a plurality of the votes. Something like 25% of the total national votes is all that is needed to win the presidency in the most extreme case. That is how the Republicans have won the presidency without the popular vote twice in the last few decades.
What the fuck are you trying to argue? My point for the entire time has been that unlike modern first world democracies, the US uses indirect elections, ie the electoral college. This is a massive problem in democracy for the US and luckily, it can be circumvented entirely through state legislation without any need for involvement of the federal government.
Your counter-argument has been “WYYAAA WYYAAA WYAAAA”. Not really clear what you’re trying to say with that, so please, do elaborate.
That is like saying the people in the US don’t elect the president because the Electoral College does.
You wrote that as if you were being sarcastic, but what you don’t realise is that it is what is happening and the fact that the US has indirect elections and still thinks of itself as the bastion of democracy is pretty ludicrous.
No state in 2016 awarded Trump electoral college votes without him winning that state’s popular vote. What are you talking about?
Oh I sorry I just realised you don’t actually understand.
See in pretty much every “first world country” we use direct presidential elections and if the US did too, the result of those elections would’ve been different.
Not the “will of the people”.
The US isn’t a democracy. (And republics are types of democracies btw)
https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/perspectives-on-politics/article/testing-theories-of-american-politics-elites-interest-groups-and-average-citizens/62327F513959D0A304D4893B382B992B
I don’t understand the thing that I already said that you seem to be trying to explain back to me?
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So you do understand that if the popular vote was the thing that mattered and not the electoral college, Trump would’ve lost in 2016?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_presidential_elections_in_which_the_winner_lost_the_popular_vote
Yes, that is the thing we are talking about.
So you do understand that if the popular vote was the thing that mattered and not the electoral college, Trump would’ve lost in 2016?
Yes,. that is why I said:
Do you have a brain injury?
You seem to.
What the fuck are you trying to argue? My point for the entire time has been that unlike modern first world democracies, the US uses indirect elections, ie the electoral college. This is a massive problem in democracy for the US and luckily, it can be circumvented entirely through state legislation without any need for involvement of the federal government.
Your counter-argument has been “WYYAAA WYYAAA WYAAAA”. Not really clear what you’re trying to say with that, so please, do elaborate.
I was the one who brought up the Electoral College at the start of this thread, not you.
Aye, you did.
You wrote that as if you were being sarcastic, but what you don’t realise is that it is what is happening and the fact that the US has indirect elections and still thinks of itself as the bastion of democracy is pretty ludicrous.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elections_by_country
tldr I don’t think you know what “indirect election” means