• arc@lemm.ee
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    3 days ago

    Bluesky is like Twitter but with about 1/10th the idiots, and no mechanism that the idiots can elevate their racist, moronic hot takes above other comments.

    • supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      0
      ·
      2 days ago

      Bluesky will follow the same enshittification trajectory Twitter did, it is just the beginning of the rollercoaster where the coaster is slowly brought up to the top to be launched… and everyone is exclaiming “wow I haven’t even thrown up yet!” as if that was any indicator of how much they were about to throw up…

      • MarkalAlvarez@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        0
        ·
        2 days ago

        I don’t think it will go down the same path as Twitter, since Bluesky is open source and available on Github other devs will have the possibility to improve it or create a better version of it but with the more users joining it might necessary to monetize it to better cover the costs. I would love to see everyone switching to the Fediverse but it’s not very intuitive for the average end user with the instances and the fact that you need to target a user and an instance to follow it

              • MarkalAlvarez@lemmy.world
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                0
                ·
                1 day ago

                can you please be more specific ? What proprietary parts you found ? Did you read the code ? Again code is open source and anyone can read it and modify it, there is no proprietary, the license used is MIT not another weird license that limit the code from being used for other purposes like commercial stuff

                • supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  arrow-up
                  0
                  ·
                  1 day ago

                  The code isn’t available for the parts that aren’t open source? Just because a component of a system is open source doesn’t mean the entire system can be called open source.

                  That is a dangerous conflation to make in public discourse about this as it warps the conversation in artificial ways.

                  Make NO mistake if the entire system was actually open source they would have no way to lucratively monetize bluesky, and that is precisely what they will do.

                  The CEO of Bluesky has gone on record saying they haven’t ruled out monetizing through forcing ads on a system. Do you not understand that is functionally impossible to force ads on a fully open source system?

                  how can you be so stunningly naive

  • OmegaLemmy@discuss.online
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    edit-2
    4 days ago

    Mastodon has around 1 million active users³ Bluesky has around 3.5 million active users²

    Bluesky doesn’t have a decent way to see active user count, but it is likely higher than 3 million

    Mastodon retains 10%, Bluesky retains 10% also, but I can’t confirm it

    Edit: Using unique likes, it shows about 2 million active users on each day¹

    Source:

    Bsky Analytics¹ • Bsky Stats² • Mastodon Analytics³

  • merc@sh.itjust.works
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    4 days ago

    What annoys me is that people are buying the idea that BlueSky is federated.

    Not only is it not federated, the very architecture they designed means that it’s probably not federateable, at least not by normal users.

    The way they designed it, a relay is required to collect and forward every single BlueSky post. That means, as the service grows, it becomes more and more impossible for anybody but a company to run a relay. Someone did some calculations back in November when it was a significantly smaller network, and they calculated that at a minimum it costs a few hundred dollars, possibly as much as 1000 bucks a month just to handle the disk storage needs for a relay on a leased server. The more the network grows, the more those costs skyrocket.

    What good does it do to have a network that theoretically can be federated, but practically costs so much to run a single node that nobody except a for-profit company can manage it?

    • JackAttack@lemmy.dbzer0.com
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      0
      ·
      3 days ago

      I’m not familiar with Blue sky, do they advertise as federated or how exactly do they claim to differ from a regular platform like original Twitter?

      • MimicJar@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        0
        ·
        3 days ago

        https://docs.bsky.app/docs/advanced-guides/federation-architecture

        And reading an article from TechCrunch,

        “The social network has a Twitter-like user interface with algorithmic choice, a federated design and community-specific moderation.”

        “Is Bluesky decentralized? Yes. Bluesky’s team is developing the decentralized AT Protocol, which Bluesky was built atop.”

        “However, the launch of federation will make it work more similarly to Mastodon in that users can pick and choose which servers to join and move their accounts around at will.”


        So it definitely is pitching that is it decentralized and federated. Maybe the argument is that it “will be”, but at the moment it is not and at the moment it does not look like it will be an actual possibility.

        Now people leaving Twitter is great, don’t get me wrong, but it’s possibly just kicking the can down the road. In a few years we’ll likely have articles complaining about missing “Old Bluesky” and how “new Bluesky” has the exact same problems that “Old Twitter” had.