• Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee
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    5 days ago

    I find it kinda amazing that they act shocked that Transpeople are arming and antifa is showing up armed when these motherfuckers have been brandishing firearms at their gatherings since literally forever.

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      “The second amendment is essential to protect against tyranny!”

      …Right wing takes over US government and immediately starts attacking and marginalizing trans and other groups…

      …trans and others start carrying guns…

      “Not like that!”

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        To conservative white mean, tyranny means having to pay an income tax to support social programs, not being allowed to marry 13 year olds, or the government pushing renewable energy over coal.

        To other groups, tyranny has a slightly more real meaning.

        I have historically been pretty pro gun control because my life had seen the US generally becoming more socially progressive and supportive of marginalized groups (whether that was truly the case is another question), but the last 5-10 years have me seriously walking back on that stance.

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    There’s are multiple leftist gun associations and they all have my full support (and the SRA has my membership).

    Unlike the MAGA lunatics, the left actually has something to protect: those who are under attack and are unable to protect themselves. The women and the LGBTQ+ people in our country NEED to be able to protect themselves because the government is obviously not interested in their safety.

    These organizations are not militias. We don’t plan attacks, we don’t conspire to subvert order. Our purpose is to train and protect those who need protection the most.

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    I am all for this wave of “Pink Panthers” arming themselves. Hopefully it will lead to some actual gun control laws, because it scares the cowardly fascists.

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      I understand what you mean, but unfortunatly they could just make those potential laws only restrict LGBTQ+ gun owners while protecting themselves from any retribution.

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        Yep maggots would say “sex offenders” should be banned from gun ownership

        Let me reiterate. Maggots have attempted to label the entire LGBTQ community as sex offenders against children only because of their orientation. This would be their playbook for grabbing their guns without having to give up theirs

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          You joke, but carry and purchase laws were literally created to stop black people from carrying or purchasing X locally “restricted” item, but over time some areas stopped using them that way and got more permissive about it, some areas started making it harder for everyone so at least it isn’t racist but fuck everybody, and some areas still use what laws are in place for their intended purpose (see: North Carolina recently took away their pistol purchase permit requirement, but before they did 60% of denials were to african americans.)

          It very well might be no guns for gays/trans, it would just be worded differently as “concealed carry permits” or “purchase permits” that “require review” by the local authorities including your social media as many advocate for or medical history (that one may be harder because HIPPA but would be called “mental health checks” officially, requiring you to sign a waiver when applying for the permit.) Or by using all that data that people who “have nothing to hide” are freely giving to companies that sell it to the NSA, “sorry our database says you visited the local gay bar ‘buttchuggers’ a whole bunch, we don’t think you’re morally fit to own firearms and have denied your request.” It could happen. Will it? Who knows, but they did it to a different group before and could very well do it again.

          On the plus side they can’t fuck with their own base too hard, so we probably don’t have to worry about some of that any time soon like the mental health checks. Anything already in place like CCW permits however can safely be abused, and blamed on the democrats if anyone in their base even cares (as they won’t be further affected by abuse of the existing laws than they already are.)

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      That is awesome. I have always felt pretty real sure that Guthrie’s guitar has never actually killed fascists

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        According to the Behind the Bastards about Guthrie (they always do a Christmas episode about a non-bastard), it was a standard thing to put on machines used to build stuff for the war.

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    FYI:

    Libs of TikTok is a handle for various far-right[a] and anti-LGBT[b] social-media accounts operated by Chaya Raichik (/ˈxɑːjə ˈraɪtʃɪk/ KHAH-yə RY-chik),[10] a former real estate agent.[11][12][13] Raichik uses the accounts to repost content created by left-wing and LGBT people on TikTok, and on other social-media platforms, often with hostile, mocking, or derogatory commentary.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libs_of_TikTok

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      “Chaya Raichik” isn’t a good aryan name. It sounds foreign. I say this cause who she is as a person and who she associates with seems to support fascist and ethno-nationalist ideals.

      I hope she gets everything she voted for.

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    Honestly it’s good for the MAGA crowd to see that normal people in America are armed too. They see themselves as wolves among sheep, while the masses are armed only with their useless empathy and critical thinking skills.

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      Ive legit met a couple who were surprised I like blades and that I collect them. My three favorite ones are my 1942 Machete made for the US Army, my modern Ka-bar I bought at the Army surplus warehouse in Idaho Falls, and an M3 knife replica I bought from a local dealer.

      Now imagine how theyd react if I had a gun, though if shit goes down ill just jack it from one of their still warm corpses.

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        Now imagine how theyd react if I had a gun, though if shit goes down ill just jack it from one of their still warm corpses.

        having recently died of cringe presumably

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          Honestly if it makes it any better I dont know what the actual fuck possessed me to writ it that way. Guess thats what I get for writing comments while slowly losing it playing Wasteland 1. Seriously how did folks play this in the 80s.

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            Haha kudos for taking it in stride, I am just teasing of course. Philosophically I’ve always had mixed feelings on an armed population, but if there will be people with weapons I’m happier if they’re in the hands of the people pushing for equality and fighting oppression.

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      while the masses are armed only with their useless empathy and critical thinking skills.

      I miss the gold award here, you deserve one.

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    Ugh. I still hate guns. Guns kill people and the US obsession with them will never make sense to me.

    But at this point it’s probably good that it’s not only the supporters if the lunatic fascist oligarchy that are armed. It hurts to admit, but I’d rather see a Nazi shot dead than a decent human being. Heck, if I were in the US I might learn how to shoot a gun at this point.

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        Marx died around the time that automatic firearms became a thing. For fighting tyranny bolt actions are solid. For mass murdering defenseless children, automatic weapons are more suited.

        On the other hand if Marx had witnessed modern surveillance capitalism, he might had advocated for everyone to own automatic grenade launchers…

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          For fighting tyranny bolt actions are solid.

          Are you aware of what gear the tyrants’ armies have? They’re not going to be fiddling around with bolt action rifles, I can tell you that much.

          Guns are a tool, and horrible people using fully auto weapons isn’t a good reason for us to avoid them.

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            For Guerilla warfare you don’t seek an “open battle”, but rather surprise attacks.

            Ofc. it goes from using simpler weapons to conquering more advanced weapons from the regime, or making Police/Army units defect with their equipment.

            Finally a murderous regime will not crack down on Guerillas by fighting them directly, but mostly through terrorizing all Civilians in the hope of hitting the Guerillas too.

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    People: please do not carry an AK. Just get an AR. ARs have interchangeable parts, ammunition is cheap, and aside from Bear Creek Arsenal, they’re going to just work. AKs require significant hand fitting and there’s no single standard, ammunition prices have risen sharply since the cheap milsurp ammo flow got cut off, and at the cheaper end they tend to be dangerous to the user. Yes, I know that AKs have a reputation got working in adverse conditions, but that reputation dates to the Vietnam war, when the AR was a new platform; modern ARs are far, far more reliable and accurate than an AK.

    You can still get an AK for fun, but don’t don’t treat it like your serious gun.

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      I understand some people might look away from the AR-15 because it’s the gun everyone has which takes away from the cool factor, or maybe you just dislike its connotation due to high use among right-wing folk, but this person speaks the truth.

      AR-15s are common because they work. Customizations and spare parts are cheap, effective, and widely available. So are good magazines, which are typically a shockingly difficult part to design well and the place where many otherwise decent guns fail. .223 Remington has one of most varied supplies of ammunition on the market, beaten only by things like 12 gauge.

      Don’t buy weird shit until you own one of these (or at least a pump-action 12 gauge ffs).

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          No lie! They’ve been available to civilians since the 60s. They weren’t popular because they’re not the best in any particular class. But they’re easy and don’t kick.

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            Sure, but also wheelguns were also considered more reliable and better than semi autos at the time.

            AR ban expiration came around the same time as people were getting more used to gucci guns and mods.

            There were a lot of other guns that got unbanned at the same time. The AR platform just happened to be ready for a resurgence right around the time that the expiration.

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        The Black Panthers and the insuing riots after the murder of MLK got blacks the right to vote. And led to the first sensible gun laws in US history.

        Nothing meaningfully improves until the rich fear for their lives.

        This is a historical fact for our Republic

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              Try looking up when “blacks” got the right to vote, and then maybe what the Civil Rights Movement was actually about, russki.

              It sure as fuck wasn’t “riots after MLK’s assassination”

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                https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_assassination_riots

                The King assassination riots, also known as the Holy Week Uprising,[2] were a wave of civil disturbance which swept across the United States following the assassination of Martin Luther King Jr. on April 4, 1968.

                Dr. King had campaigned for a federal fair housing law throughout 1966, but had not achieved it.[36] Senator Walter Mondale advocated for the bill in Congress, but noted that over successive years, a fair housing bill was the most filibustered legislation in US history.[37] It was opposed by most Northern and Southern senators, as well as the National Association of Real Estate Boards. Mondale commented that:

                A lot of [previous] civil rights [legislation] was about making the South behave and taking the teeth from George Wallace … This came right to the neighborhoods across the country. This was civil rights getting personal.

                The assassination and subsequent riots quickly revived the bill.[38][39][27][40] On April 5, Johnson wrote a letter to the United States House of Representatives urging passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1968, which included the Fair Housing Act.[31] The Rules Committee, “jolted by the repeated civil disturbances virtually outside its door,” finally ended its hearings on April 8.[41] With newly urgent attention from White House legislative director Joseph Califano and Speaker of the House John McCormack, the bill—which was previously stalled that year—passed the House by a wide margin on April 10.[25]

                For some liberals and civil rights advocates, the riots were a turning point.

                The assassination and riots radicalized many, helping to fuel the Black Power movement.[42]

                In after the rise of the Black Panthers and the increased unity caused by the death of MLK the movement rallied together and kept pushing which led to integration the right to vote.

                As for calling me ruzzian, fuck you drag. I’ve seen you around here and you’re always spitting some dumb bootlicker shit.

                Grow a spine, grow up

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                  Lol, yeah, that’s what I’m known for, advocating peaceful protests and centrist positioning.

                  Your comment proved me right though, GJ on that?

                  Cya around, orc bot.