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I can’t wait for Intel to step up their game and for AMD to reengage. We really need the competition.
Cynical side note - anyone scraping comments doesn’t care about your creative commons link, and will be happy to ignore it.
Not a fan of the phrase “virtue signalling” but it’s absolutely that.
Edit to add that they have been around for some time are nice people so don’t take this as more than the side-eye it is intended to be.
I’m sure that’s never occurred to them before, that a comment like this definitely isn’t posted in every single thread they comment in, and that they’re incredibly thankful for your input.
Maybe so but then they’re committing a crime. If there is ever any evidence, like his comment shows up in a database, it is a slam dunk case
Intel has great hardware in the Intel Arc. The biggest problem is their shitty drivers.
Their drivers are getting there. I have not heard many bad things about Battlemage’s driver support beyond typical launch day bumps, and would consider buying one myself now honestly.
Their biggest weakness is that their entire architecture is built around dx12 and Vulcan, it has NO hardware level support for dx11/9 or older graphics API’s. The largest problem Arc had at launch was it would run modern games decently, but even games a few years old would run at single digit framerates (if at all!) as their driver tried to translate older api draw calls into a newer API, and very poorly at that. They’ve apparently vastly improved that translation layer by now so it’s no longer a problem.
IIRC Intel is using DXVK for their drivers on Windows. Not sure if that ever changed.
Exactly. I don’t think it’s that there is “no hardware level support for dx11/9” - hardware isn’t that drastically different depending on API. The problem is that they introduce an additional software-based emulation layer instead of natively implementing D3D 8/9/10/11 in the driver.
Yep, agree! Would definately LOVE to buy an Intel GPU if they could get their drivers up to snuff.
I’ve watched a few Gamers Nexus videos where the Intel guys are interviewed and talk about their drivers work, good stuff.
I’m looking for a new gaming laptop. It’s impossible to find any with an AMD GPU here.
AMD seriously needs to start taking driver support seriously.
Both my dad and myself have (begrudgingly) moved to Nvidia because we both got hit with constant driver timeout crashes. My dad also got rapidly flashing black and green screens countless times. I use my PC for work purposes so that kind of crap is unacceptable; I need absolute reliability that I can depend on.
Myself and so many other customers would love to see better bang-for-buck options in the GPU space like the good old days, but AMD really needs to sort this shit out. Intel has the excuse of being a brand new player that is working entirely from scratch, but AMD has been in the GPU game for decades and should know better. I mean, christ, their CPU division is basically printing money right now so they absolutely have the resources to fix this.
I’m not gonna lie, if you’re having continuous driver timeouts that’s probably a personal Windows issue. I had some issues with my 7900xtx until I just fresh installed Windows (despite the install only being a month old) and all those problems magically went away.
AMD seriously needs to start taking driver support seriously.
That’s been an issue for them in the past, but not recently. Last I heard, the quality of their drivers has improved allot from two generations ago.
I game on an all-AMD Linux (Fedora/KDE) rig, and I haven’t had one crash with any game that I play (via Steam/Proton).
IDK if people over exaggerate but I honestly had more issues with NVIDIA driver on GTX 1080ti and RTX 3060ti than I had with my RX 6800 XT.
All issues could be mostly resolved with workarounds on both AMD and NVIDIA. The NVIDIA issues were actually more annoying as I had issues outside of games.
In conclusion, all GPU vendors have issues. NVIDIA is not the perfect guy, people just learned to ignore their issue or work around them.
Same. My 6700XT is solid as a rock playing games through Proton and doing a bit of light AI work on the side.
What does that have to do with AMD’s driver support? AMD’s Linux Vulkan driver (AMDVLK) was so late and bad that Red Hat and Valve had to make their own (RADV), which is the default in Fedora and SteamOS. AMD’s first party drivers are still garbage.
FYI, you can run RADV in Windows using an experimental patch: https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/-/merge_requests/29945
I hope you’re right. That is good news if true.
I had pretty much no driver issues either with my RX 580, Vega 64 and now 6950XT on Windows. The only issue I had was with audio sometimes being garbled on my Vega 64 in shadow recordings but I had worse issuss with Nvidia causing video corruption back when I was using a GTX 960 and 970 so I’m not sure if it’s even a GPU issue.
Well I don’t game on Windows, so their Windows drivers could still suck. But I used to on my RX 6800 XT before switching to Linux, and I did not have driver problems with Windows at all.
My son had a 5X00 gen card, and he can’t wait to get away from AMD because of driver issues he’s having all the time, when playing LoL in Windows. I’m having a hard time convincing him to make his next card AMD because of that, even with all of the current Nvidia shenanigans going on. So, I do get where you’re coming from, drivers wise.
But all I can vouch for reliably is that my all AMD rig with a RX 6800 XT card works great, no driver issues/crashes. My biggest headache is sometimes having to select a different version of Proton for when I’m playing a game (thank god for protondb.com).
I dual boot and can confirm the drivers on Windows are perfectly fine (I have a 7800XT). There is still a jank factor with the included gui and you have to stop windows from auto “updating” (actually a downgrade) the graphics drivers because windows sucks ass.
