• OneCardboardBox@lemmy.sdf.org
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    4 months ago

    This movie is so hard to talk about, because the question is: “What is it even about?”

    I like movies with abstract themes and strange storytelling, but this was just incomprehensible. Its plot revolves around the machinations of rich men to control the future of their city “New Rome”, but the plot is kinda meaningless. There’s never any real threat to Caesar’s goal. Just plot events that could be obstacles but then are immediately resolved/neutered. Ok, fine! Surely then it’s an art-house piece with a deep message? The plot points must be there for the sake of a larger theme. I was waiting for everything to add up in the finale, but it just ends up with Caesar delivering a speech filled with platitudes so bland that I thought it was a joke. Then the credits rolled and the 2 of the other 5 people in the theater with me started laughing.

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      10 min: This should be interesting. 20 min: Why does this feel… off? 30 min: I must be missing a lot of historical references. 40 min: Wait, is the audience the butt of the joke here? 50 min - 90 min: confusion/anger 100 min: Holy shit Aubrey Plaza is hot 120 min: He made a whole movie for that one scene 🤣

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        3 months ago

        It’s similar only in that it’s about a “Great man” remaking a society in collapse.

        Really none of the themes are there. Nor is there any journey of discovery to understand who Caesar is, like you get in Atlas Shrugged where other characters learn who John Galt is.

        Galt is “Self interest and belief in my vision will make society better”. Caesar is “McGuffin building materials and belief in my vision will make society better”. For all its flaws, one is at least a political statement, while the other is milquetoast hopium.

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      4 months ago

      Why is art, even if not to your tastes, incorrect? Commercial viability is not the measure of quality. Even if it’s an incoherent mess, it adds. Why a lust for the failure of others? Did Francis re-neg on a promise he made to you personally?

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          4 months ago

          Nope didn’t read. Admittedly, thought it was just the movie wiki and didn’t go that far. I made comment about the movie not the director. In the context of the article and allegations against Coppola, I am not defending gross and entitled behaviors. Another example of how complicated it is to consider or enjoy the art of transgressors.

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            4 months ago

            Should probably read things before chiming in. At least, if they’re pivotal to the conversation.

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              Not going to digest an entire article for a link with no context, which on its face doesn’t suggest the actions of an individual. Why would I pick out that aspect? Why am I the defender against allegations of bad behavior? That’s ridiculous.

              Edit: when I first responded there was no direct link to the allegations section, it was just the wiki for the movie. A link without context saying “fuck this”. But hey, people apparently know the intentions of strangers from a single hot take, what a skill. Enjoy your echo chamber.