Enshittification is the promise of clout
For people wanting to tell people about Lemmy/Mbin/Piefed, there is !fedibridge@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Frankly, if they can tolerate discord as their sole bit of online presence, I don’t think they’d fit in here all that well.
I’ve used dozens of IRCs in the past, but discord is the one I’ll never understand. And I don’t really know why I hate it so much.
Discord is fine instead of IRC I guess? But it’s not a forum. It’s chat rooms. Totally different thing and not an alternative to Reddit, is it?
No it’s not a replacement and probably just self promotion. I was just saying how Discord is the one IRC I could never get into.
It feels cramped and stifling. It’s good at one thing, and that thing is not 300 user chat sessions.
does Discord provide any of the core functionalities of Subs, Posts, Comments, Up-/Downvotes?
It can have up/downvotes, comments and posts, but it would have an algorithm less advanced that lemmy. You can technically have multiple subs
You can kinda make discord into a reddit alternative, but you can also make lemmy a discors alternative. Either way, its not easy or seamless
Nope. When I left reddit, there was a lot of people pushing for discord like its a replacement. Its very much not the same thing. Its basically a chat room with a handful of extra features
And in a room with any measurable amount of people, it quickly becomes impossible to find anything or track conversations. I’m in a couple developer servers for some hosted apps, and goddamn is it painful when I actually need to use them for support. Hell, even my local friend group server with a dozen or so people can be annoying when it’s really popping.
Doesn’t matter. It’s closed source, centralised and already enshittifying.
Even if it wasnt, i fail to see how going to Discord serves any of the purposes of reddit. So from my understanding you really have to go out of your way to choose Discord as a replacement over Lemmy. That is if you know Lemmy exists.
I mean you have servers, and a forums feature. But… no not really…
You can turn messages into threads so you get something that looks kinda sorta vaguely similar to posts if you squint.
I think the forums achieves this better. You could have the OP make a post on the forum, and then have emoji reactions be upvotes and downvotes. But it’s not really meant for it, not the same.
Forums also makes the search feature 10x worse than it already is. There is no way (that I could find) to search individual forum posts for keywords.
I often have to use the search feature to find people in severs, and half the time they don’t even show up. Then I go to @ them in a channel, and then they suddenly show up in the search again, it’s ridiculous
I kinda get it. Money usually equals a degree of stability of service. And people value that when switching from something they considered stable.
You gotta realize, some of the people that wanted to leave reddit in 23 and heard about lemmy, they asked some version of “but what if the person running the instance closes it?”. They don’t see the equivalence that if reddit was essentially shutting down parts of its service, that it was no better. Or that it doesn’t really matter because you just switch to a new instance if you can’t run your own. Nobody should be relying on a third party as their sole repository of whatever it is that they want to preserve in that regard either.
So, I get it. Discord is rarely down, and never for long. It’s ubiquitous. It isn’t anything like the kind of threaded forum reddit and lemmy are, but that’s not necessarily the primary goal of everyone that uses them.
A few months after Rexodus, Kbin.social shut down, and even before that dmv.social running Lemmy software did as well, due to the waves of CSAM (just prior to the automated protections) - here is their goodbye message. For non-technical people especially, it can be really worrisome to potentially lose out on everything that they have built when a server chooses to go down.
Yup, that’s why we guide them to better practices, or try to. Back-up, back-up back-up.
It’s a legit concern, but one with a legit solution.
It’s not just that though: if you consider the needs of an actual content creator, even if not fully a self-styled “influencer” but like a step or two towards that I mean, they want to retain a method of keeping in contact with their followers. i.e. they want an address that people can bookmark and share with others, where they can remain reachable. Especially for X/Twitter migrating to Mastodon or Bluesky, but also for Reddit to Lemmy as well.
Coming to the Fediverse for them means having to learn how to self-host their own space. Which creative people tend to not want to do, even as technical people tend to be less creative in turn:-).
Ofc I’m not saying that Discord is a good answer to that issue - it’s decidedly not in fact, as it is not discoverable or searchable by the internet, and far worse in fact in requiring people to create an account and join a server to even see the content (iirc?). But I can see why they would at least consider it, when Lemmy’s stability is questionable to them.
Perhaps the best answer then would be to trot out the top 10-20 instances and report how many years they’ve remained open. Reddit itself was newer at some point, when people first switched to it.
Did reddit have influencers in the typical social media sense? I never noticed them in my communities. There were content creators obviously and some were more active sure, but still anonymous. Maybe some guerilla marketers but I don’t think the communities were generally driven by those the way other social media platforms are driven by influencers.
How many times do we have to teach you this lesson, old man!
