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Let’s try our own bait and switch:

I’m watching a science fiction show and suddenly they start focusing on American history instead.

So I’m offended by the bait and switch, or whatever you call it.

Is that valid?

The answer is still no, it’s not valid to equate a movie to, oh… systematic oppression. If you didn’t like the movie, you didn’t like the movie.

Has it all been futile? Have I wasted ten years fighting the same fascists my grandfather fought in WW2?

You didn’t waste your time any more than he wasted his. Plenty of people died fighting without seeing victory on the horizon. If WW2 had ended differently, it still wouldn’t have been a waste of time fighting Nazis. You can’t always win, but you can always fight.

Martial law would be devastating but no matter how well-funded they are, the American defense industry is bloated, mismanaged, and full of flawed humans. Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq, even Ukraine - all prove that defeat is far from guaranteed against what appears to be an unstoppable force.

But to tell the truth, I am struggling to figure out how to fight at this stage. Messaging, communication, organization - these appear sparse and unreliable right now, drowned out in the sea of disinformation. What will bring us together? Do we need heros to rally around? Martyrs to avenge? Slogans to shout? Organizations to unite? Platforms to coordinate? All of the above?

You don’t get to use your identity as a defense against being called an asshole. Anyone can be a bigot. You talk about people who you claim to identify with like they’re deviant, lesser, and worthy of oppression. It’s not about fucking pronouns and you know it. You openly admit you want these people to suffer.

You’re a bigoted asshole and don’t belong in any community that relies on inclusion. Goodbye.

I used to live in a city. Doesn’t matter where I live, the queer community is only accepting of a certain kind of queer. Which I’m not.

You do not get to paint the whole community like this. The community is only accepting of a certain kind of person: the kind of person that accepts and supports the community.

You’re not doing that. You’re stirring shit up, acting like some members of the community haven’t earned their place, and throwing around some extremely inappropriate stereotypes like your alleged experience is indicative of the community as a whole.

You want to be homophobic and stereotype people like this, and you want to be transphobic and dismiss their struggles up to now as “having it too easy”?

And you fucking come around saying they deserve to be oppressed? They “have it coming” because they “wouldn’t listen to their elders”? You want them to be oppressed?

Then you’re absolutely right. You’re not the kind of person the community accepts. Get the fuck out.

It seems more to me like the TQ wants to rid themselves of the LGB with their pronoun tirades and temper tantrums.

Woah, hey, what the fuck? Here I thought you were having a sincere overreaction but no, this is all just transphobia, and possibly homophobia. You’re basically ranting about the whole community being non-monogamous? Sexually deviant?

“Terminally online whiny piss babies”? You want to reject the community? You think they’ve all just had it easy? You live a “lonely rural life” and think you can talk about how people have had it easy? Paint the whole community red like that but it’s okay if you say “(at least by me)”?

Transgender people have had it easy?

Absolutely not with this shit, I do not give you any more benefits of the doubt or good faith. You are hitting all the bigot talking points regardless of what you identify as.

You do not get to divide the community at a time like this. Trying to stir shit up and turn LGB on TQ and vice versa, yeah, you need to GTFO.

Blaming any victim for their oppression is wrong.

I’m sorry but that is the end of this conversation. You want to blame people for their own oppression. You are not speaking as their ally, you are speaking as their enemy.

Great. So, you think your fellow community members have a behavioral problem, and you’re blaming them for their impending oppression. Again, not the words of an ally. To them, or to anyone in the community.

Blaming any victim for their oppression is wrong. Especially if you know what it’s like to be oppressed. It’s not their fault, and how dare you suggest that it is.

You think they’re disrespecting their elders and they don’t know how good they have it? Do you genuinely not see a problem here? Have you ever heard someone say anything like that and thought “hmm, actually they have a point”? Especially when you don’t actually know how good they’ve had it?

I’m saying that since they want to fake being oppressed so hard they should get a taste of what real oppression feels like.

This is your problem. You need to face it. Those are not the words of an ally. Saying that a member of your community deserves to feel the same oppression you did? Absolutely not. You are not speaking as their ally, you are speaking as their enemy.

You’ve got a lot of “kids these days don’t know how good they have it!” energy, and it’s really not helping you here or anywhere.

Seriously, you’re complaining about these people fighting all the wrong battles, but here you are still fighting in that exact battle? In your eyes, they’re wasting their time turning on each other… but here you are screaming at them and about them? Do you think the things you are saying in this thread will prevent discrimination and violence? Do you think you’re changing minds?

I understand you’re rightfully pissed off about a lot of things. But you really are drawing a line in your life and saying "I struggled. They didn’t. They don’t have the right to question me. Which isn’t necessarily true and also isn’t a very productive line of reasoning.