Z_Poster365 [none/use name]

Weed leads to more open mindedness. Why bother using it as an opiate of the masses when you have actual opiates. Push those instead while throwing anyone who has touched weed into the private slave system for superprofits.

I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s causal, but it could also be that more naturally empathetic people trend towards weed to cope with the reality that our society is brutal and predatory and uncaring. I know I need weed just to cope with living in a fascist society where almost everyone around me shrugs their shoulders at genocide.

Also it could be shared confounding variables like the fact that more poor, young and POC people smoke, and old rich white people have drained themselves of all empathy

what’s wrong with being content and finding peace? The productivity drive has been driven into you by capitalism and leads to mass discontentment and suffering. One must detach from endless striving to achieve true enlightenment and happiness, and weed can do that and chill people out and cure them of their “protestant work ethic” which is a cultural disease.

Inherent in this type of “weed makes you lazy” rhetoric is that it makes other people lazy. You want everyone else working endlessly and tirelessly implicitly here, that they must face endless burden for your benefit. It’s a form of social control where you are attempting to force your values onto others instead of respecting their right to chose what they do with their own body and life.

hey kid want some druuuuugs

good luck with that buddy, your head will be on a spike if you ever actually try something like this

That is a problem with the current state. In a future socialist state we can eliminate it without these issues.

You started this entire thread by saying “Dangerous drugs need to be kept off the streets through any means”. Present tense. Any means. Don’t play stupid, we don’t live in a future socialist state. We live in the existing racist, fascist capitalist one that has demonstrably only used the drug war to create mass systems of enslavement. So why don’t you shut the fuck up about hypothetical idealist futures and talk about existing reality? Are you even a marxist with this utopian idealist nonsense?

The only other method that would be anywhere near as a effective would be the government undercutting suppliers by selling at a lose and poisoning it

The fact that this insane fascist tactic is on the table for you is nuts. Why even mention this shit? This is my line, the evil shit the prohibition governments do to its own people in the name of “protecting” them. Why would you go ahead and mention it when it’s farcically evil?

not bought from a gang at a street corner like marijuana

What year do you think it is? Lmao you are so sheltered and it shows

What happens when people refuse treatment and ignore your “education” DARE initiatives?

No it isn’t and you’re a fascist boomer who is pro child-enslavement. That is the logical endpoint of making weed illegal, we already saw it.

How do you prevent that? Look at alcohol and how many people drive drunk

Then ban alcohol. I’d love to see you try and eat shit the same way they did a hundred years ago when you developed your worldview

if it’s so achievable then why hasn’t it been done despite the most authoritarian police state in world history with a surveillance state and billions in funding? Despite putting millions into jail for it to bring our prison population to the highest in human history?

Drug war in the United States focused on the end consumer

Not true really. The emphasis of legal punishment was always on distribution and retail. Problem is, tens of millions of people “dealt weed” because it was profitable to buy it in bulk and sell it to your friends. Every single person knows 100 people from their high school or college they could get weed from. Millions of people were put into prison for low level drug selling offenses.

more about targeting minorities than the drug.

No shit, we live in a racist fascist nation. Any legal apparatus assembled to punish the poor via class war will disproportionally fall upon the minority classes which are poor. So will whatever drug enforcement scheme you have in mind.

Harsh criminalization for distributors is best while making it nearly impossible to attain

You want to put tens of millions of children and young adults who have done nothing except buy a pound of weed from their cousin and sell eighths to their friends into jail to be enslaved.

Combined with random drug tests and free treatment centers we can end drug addiction.

So you want to infringe on people’s bodies and take their fluids at gunpoint? You are a fascist freak if you think this should actually be enforced. Oh I’m sure it wouldn’t be on anyone, just those people

correlation doesn’t equal causation. weed is very popular and used hundreds of millions of times every day, of course it will be co-existing with all the realities of the world. It doesn’t mean that it causes them.

Indoor cooking serves a social purpose that marijuana doesn’t

So because you personally see no utility in something, nobody in society can benefit from it as they see fit. This is your reactionary boomer mind poking through. Taking selfish simplifications and extrapolating to them to everyone to enforce social control. You must recognize this is boomer behavior you are exhibiting. The exact logic is used to justify homophobia and transphobia.

there’s no other way to oppose it without harsh criminalization. If the punishments are light slaps on the wrists then people will just continue doing it, but in unregulated black markets with more criminal elements.

All you do is hand over an ever increasing marketshare to criminal organizations. If you attempt to crack down hard on those organizations, you get a drug war. Congratulations, you have just understood history of drugs and why your opinions are that of an ancient reactionary

Can we eliminate the negative consequences of a war on drugs? We have to look at in the real world and the real world shows that wars on drugs create huge slave labor prison systems for victimless crimes. Unless capitalism has been abolished then drugs wars ought to be opposed

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if someone is driving while high then they should face consequences, but otherwise no crime has been committed. You can’t just do pre-crime to justify your views. Something can’t be made illegal because someone might later do something different that is illegal.

Yes, so does lack of sleep. Put anyone in jail who pulls an all nighter. By your arguments, we should have sleep monitors on every single person since you think we should be drug testing the entire population constantly. Anybody who refuses the sleep monitors or who doesn’t get a good nights rest will be put into mandatory “sleep rehabilitation”. If they refuse, they go to jail to be enslaved to do dangerous work for no money.

It’s weird you can’t see that just because “not sleeping is unhealthy” and “you shouldn’t drive while tired” are both true statements, you can’t make that into law without becoming a freakish draconian tyranny.