Oh 100%. I’m not ignorant to our complete takeover by morons and the allowing of it that people have here in the states. I’m just saying we’re not the only ones. Especially since it’s happening in countries with “better education” than us. Which means Americas crappy education system isn’t the real problem like the original comment was saying

The CxU has claimed they won’t work with the AfD but…. Link

Thanks, I’m hopeful for Germany that they can keep the AfD at bay. I’m hopeful that Americas former allies make enough of a turn on us that the people here realize we messed up and I’m hopeful if we return to decency here that we didn’t burn up all of our credibility. A lot of Americans aren’t Trump supporters, but certainly there is a decent amount that is and it disgusts me.

If we’re saying things are “not that it’s good” then it sounds like there is a rightward shift. Which was my point. America isn’t alone in this trend. To act like it is due to some lack of education was the original OPs point and I simply disagree with that based on the current trends of countries around the world.

I hope so for Germanys sake. A 9% increase from the last election, for a party that’s 12 years old… that’s pretty sweeping to me. Not to mention that it’s more so the southern parts of Germany that have an even stronger percentage of AfD support.

Again, I’m not wanting a right shift for these countries, but it’s become clear that things are. We could stick our head in the dirt and say it’s only America, but that wouldn’t be true, and that’s what I was getting at with my comment.

AfD walked away in second, but jumped by nearly 9% over the last federal election. That’s a huge gain in momentum.

The mid-right said they wouldn’t work with them, but as we have seen that means absolutely nothing. I wouldn’t be surprised if the SDP CDU broke that and started working with AfD. Maybe it’s just me being cynical.

I’m not going to disagree that our power projection from the US isn’t a power boost to other right wing governments. I just think that to claim this is solely a result of poor US education when we can see this happening elsewhere in so called better educated countries means it isn’t really the predictor they’re claiming it to be.

The incumbents are losing to whom? Certainly not their own parties. You bring up the UK which is an outlier of recent events, but was a predicator of the future with Brexit during their right wing shift. Brazil could be another, but Bolsanaro is still an active threat as are his supporters.

But sure, just say “cope” and it automatically makes my comment wrong and yours right!

Germany just had a sweeping far right election, and Argentina has had a libertarian at the helms for a bit now. A ton of south Asian countries have had hardcore conservative views for a while now, and I wouldn’t be surprised if Canada shifts right next election. There are basically few corners of the earth where populism/right wing ideology isn’t growing and expanding. This isn’t an American education system problem, it’s world wide. The political elites in your country just have you convinced that it’s America that’s now the problem, which then creates a new wave of populism in your country. It’s a self eating snake.

Not that I’m disagreeing that our slapping of allies isn’t problematic. This is just something that is clearly growing everywhere and the people of Lemmy love saying “America bad” as the same exact shit is happening in your country. If you’re an American expand your news beyond our shores. The grass is unfortunately turning to shit everywhere. We’re in for a rough decade together.