“They’re our brothers and sisters. When we stop seeing people that way it’s so easy to start making laws or enacting policies that harm them.”
I’m an Episcopal priest, and I’m trying to imagine how I’d respond to this. The only time I’ve ever had to ask someone to leave was when a, say, mentally unbalanced man came into the church and screamed profanity at me in the middle of the service and told me that I needed the permission of the Korean consulate to preach (this was a white guy in a Navy sailor’s cap, in Hawai’i where I live—not sure what his deal with Korea was). He did this twice over a couple years and I have a person who works with unhoused veterans in my parish who’s told me that she’d been instructed not to interact with the guy because he was deemed too dangerous. So, asking him to leave was a safety issue. But no one tackled him.
I’d like to think that I’d let this guy have his say. If he’s not cussing anyone out or getting violent, I’d probably let him talk and then invite him to hang out and talk some after the service. I sure as shit wouldn’t demand him to “respect my authoritah” or see him tackled to the ground. That is something I can’t wrap my head around.
Didn’t think I’d ever find a priest on here.
It sounds like it happened before the service anyway. So don’t really know what disruption he was causing, unless people thought it was a protest or something.
Hey father! How long have you been doing your job? And how’s it changed in the time you’ve done it?
Been a priest almost 14 years. As for the change question, are you asking me about my own personal experience of doing the work of a priest, or how has the church at large changed during my time?
Personal experience would be really interesting if you could share?
More people need to be doing this at churches. Its the easiest way to fix the free speech narratives:
“why are churches trying to ban the words of jesus?” “These are public spaces that get tax breaks for being public spaces, why is there censorship in these places”
Yes, but also, the craziest people will say either A. That the pastor should be the one preaching (like the people in this case did) or B. That that’s really just politics (even if you’re literally quoting there Bible), and politics should stay out of the church
Sure the media will say things. But like half of these maga chuds go to church. Its about making them question the media by affecting their churches. When the media is lying about things they can see, it makes them doubt.
Is the recording available anywhere? Even so, massive yikes.
And when the police arrived they started questioning him about whether he agreed with Trump on deportations and Gaza. The police questioning people on their political views seems to be becoming standard in the USA.
“Why are they saying you pushed a priest?”
“They were trying to pull me away from the pulpit. I grabbed the pulpit and just held on. I didn’t push anyone. They had four guys grabbing me and dragging me off there.”
“What made you want to preach today?” “I’m worried about human beings, our brothers and sisters who live within our midst and are being targeted by the government.”
“What do you consider to be targeted by the government? What class of people are you …”
“Undocumented immigrants.”
“So you don’t agree with deportations and things like that?”
“Uh-huh.”
“Did you say anything like that?”
“I didn’t even get there.”
Looking at a copy of Gillcrist’s prepared remarks, the officer said, “So I see you mention Gaza and Ukraine in here. What’s your message with that?”
“They’re our brothers and sisters. When we stop seeing people that way it’s so easy to start making laws or enacting policies that harm them.”
“They’re our brothers and sisters. When we stop seeing people that way it’s so easy to start making laws or enacting policies that harm them.”
Oh yeah, this guy is a real hatemonger.
Remember, with Trump in power cops don’t need to pretend anymore.
Jesus was a Capricorn
He ate organic food
He believed in love and peace
And never wore no shoesLong hair, beard and sandals
And a funky bunch of friends
Reckon we’d just nail him up
If he came down again‘Cause everybody’s gotta have somebody to look down on
Who they can feel better than at any time they please
Someone doin’ somethin’ dirty decent folks can frown on
If you can’t find nobody else, then help yourself to meJesus Was A Capricorn - Kris Kristofferson
– Abraham Whistler
He would probably be crucified at a democratic rally as well, lol
What? No. Rashida Talib is literally a palestinian house representative who has been saying all this for awhile now. Dems can and should be doing more, but both sides aren’t the same here. If she somehow took the stage at CPAC she would without question be attacked.
For saying other things
Feed the hungry, house the homeless and welcome the stranger.
Dude, just stop. This took two seconds to find and frankly it’s a weird hill to die on. It’s okay for a hot take to be wrong, just accept it and think of this moment before your post your next.
John 14:6
Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.
Matthew 15:18-19
But what comes out of the mouth proceeds from the heart, and this defiles a person. For out of the heart come evil thoughts, murder, adultery, sexual immorality, theft, false witness, slander.
Matthew 5:32
But I say to you that everyone who divorces his wife, except on the ground of sexual immorality, makes her commit adultery, and whoever marries a divorced woman commits adultery.
Matthew 18:21-22
Then Peter came up and said to him, “Lord, how often will my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? As many as seven times?” Jesus said to him, “I do not say to you seven times, but seventy-seven times.
It’s absolute folly to claim that Jesus would be totally cool with either side of the American political debate - democrat or republican. Both these sides want to follow themselves and their heart, and not what’s right.
Matthew 16:24-25
Then Jesus told his disciples, “If anyone would come after me, let him deny himself and take up his cross and follow me. For whoever would save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for my sake will find it.
Even though I am a Christian and would like to emulate Jesus, I wouldn’t even dare claim Jesus would be on my side in terms of opinions. We should strive to be on Jesus’ side.
Fucking legend.
“It’s inappropriate.”
"To pray?”
“There’s an appropriate time.”
“It is the appropriate time.”
“No, you have to listen to your authorities, which is your pastor.”
Jesus Christ.
Authorities?
A pastor isn’t much of an authority, is he? I’m from the UK, so the religious are seen more as kooks.
The UK has a national church.
You have a national religion.
Not all of your religious are seen as kooks
I suppose my meaning is the “strongly religious” - as in the ones who include it as part of their identity - are seen as kooks.
The King is pretty strongly religious and sees it as a core part of his identity
And he’s a kook.
Always has been.
They are all sheep who wish to be wolves.
Yeah, no way We’re letting a long haired, bearded freak into our church…
I wanted to reply with a picture of black Jesus, but holy shit, image searche yields just page after page of garbage AI art. Mostly from etsy. Often without nipples, because AI still can’t figure out brown nipples on brown people
because AI still can’t figure out brown nipples on brown people
I needed that laugh
Don’t let the man get you down
A catholic is surprised the catholic church is an authoritarian shithole.
He’s learning
He was a theology teacher. I think he knows. The article says he knew that church was conservative but thought they might be the best group to hear his message because they don’t hear such from anyone else.
Not even Jesusy.
He has long hair and a beard
*glances around nervously*
"“Look at me, I’m a grad student. I’m 30 years old and I made $600 last year!”
clutches pearls
Seems like some apologies and confession seems to be in order here and not by Jimbo. Wow!
A church to the antichrist. You will treat the sorjourner as your own.
What an unfortunate coincidence that this man, Jimbo Gillchrist, has almost exactly the same name as Jim Gilchrist.
Quantum entanglement.
