• dumbadoor@lemmy.zip
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    4 hours ago

    The biggest crap is that I can’t play multiplayer games. If not for that I would switched a long time ago

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      3 hours ago

      Deep Rock Galactic, Counter-Strike, BG3, Helldivers, Marvel Rivals, Dota, Deadlock, all supported. It’s a matter of bad game publishers/developers actively choosing not to support Linux, not the other way around.

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        33 minutes ago

        The two major third party kernel level anti cheat have publically stated they have supported some level of their anti-cheat working on linux since 2021.

        Easy Anti Cheat:

        https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/09/epic-games-announce-full-easy-anti-cheat-for-linux-including-wine-a-proton/

        BattlEye:

        https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/11/supporting-linux-proton-and-the-steam-deck-with-battleye-is-just-an-email-away/

        All the devs/management has to do is actually use/enable this feature that is part of what they’re already paying for by paying for the anti-cheat in their game on windows already.

        Many proprietary or less broadly used anti cheat solutions also work on linux.

        Valve Anti Cheat

        nProtect Game Guard

        PunkBuster

        TreyArch Anti Cheat

        EQU8

        FairFight

        … all of these AC systems have at least one, usually multiple, very to moderately prominent games which use them, and are fully supported on linux.

        There is a ton of prevalent misinformation amongst gamers and devs and management as well, that common anti cheat systems are impossible to support on linux.

        This is completely false.

        What is happening is game developers either don’t care, or don’t bother to put in a modicum of effort to make their games work with third party systems with features they are already paying for, that do exist, that already support linux… or they are to incompetent to figure out how to make their games fully compatible with said AC SDKs they are already paying for.

        https://areweanticheatyet.com/

        Scroll through this and you’ll find examples of almost every major different AC system working on linux in some games, and not working in some other games.

        But most people act like its just completely impossible, across the board.

        It obviously isn’t.

        Many game devs or PR people or AC devs will publically state things that roughly equate to ‘it isn’t possible for our AC system and X game to work together on linux.’

        This is again, obviously false, for almost every kind of AC system that exists, there exist fairly popular games that have gotten that AC system fully working.

        Beyond that, people will say things like ‘all linux users are hackers’ or something to that effect.

        Again, this is obviously false.

        A cursory look at websites that sell hacks for various games will show you they are all targeted at windows users.

        These are actually substantially less likely to work on linux, as Proton and WINE and other translation layers are probably not going to be able to emulate the insane hacky exploits that work on a baremetal windows system.

        Oh, right. Last point: Many of the most popular sites and communities that sell hacks to windows users … well they defeat kernel level anti cheat systems.

        So we arrive at a situation where game devs and gamers blame linux users for cheats linux users can’t use, and because of this, they clamor for and build increasingly invasive AC … that doesn’t even work to stop windows cheaters, but it does make legit linux users unable to play.

        … The point of a complex system is what it does, not what it claims to do.

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      That’s not exactly true. Some multiplayer games doesn’t work because the anti-cheat is not made to work on Linux.

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        Tbf anti-cheat at kernel level should be avoided at all cost anyhow. Its a major security risk. Break it and your entire system is compromised.that’s the type of anti-cheat that doesn’t work under linux.