• LovableSidekick@lemmy.world
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    18 days ago

    The abundance of overconfident one-line retorts and trendy slang make me think people’s major source of knowledge here is memes.

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    18 days ago

    You have heard of commodification of capitalism criticism now get ready for commodification of criticism of capitalism criticism

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    18 days ago

    Especially when someone blames capitalism for something which has been a problem since the dawn of humanity, and if anything, has improved under capitalism.

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        18 days ago

        “You don’t hate women and feminism. You hate capitalism.”

        https://slrpnk.net/post/17820010

        As if misogyny is a new thing that came along with capitalism. Women have been second-class citizens for most of recorded history. While they’re still not on par with men, if anything it has improved in the modern, capitalist world.

        “It is always capitalism’s fault”

        https://lemmy.world/post/23607277

        Despite the nazis being fascists, somehow it’s not their fault, it’s actually capitalism that’s at fault.

        Lemmy search isn’t very good, but I’ve replied to a bunch of Lemmy posts over the last while where the argument is basically that capitalism is the worst possible system. They seem to be unaware of just how brutal and awful life was under Manorialism / Feudalism. They seem to equate every modern ill with capitalism, even when it’s something that was 1000x worse under say fascism.

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          18 days ago

          …those are all significantly worse under capitalism, how does that help the argument?

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            18 days ago

            There are different kinds of capitalism, just like there are different types of socialism.

            Authoritarian socialism or communism is the worst, and crony capitalism is what we currently have, and is pretty bad too. But there are things like democratic socialism and stakeholder capitalism which attempt to balance competing interests.

            For example, stakeholder capitalism is where all of the stakeholders benefit from their contributions, including labor. Workers get a share of the profits of the company, and are paid well as stakeholders in the company. The workers often own part or all of the company. There are also cooperatives, where the customers own the enterprise. Cooperatives work great for healthcare and necessities like groceries.

            People tend to pick the worst examples of capitalism and socialism, but those are not the only flavors.

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              18 days ago

              …okay? that wasn’t the question being asked. did you get confused at some point?

              like, i agree with what you said, just…what does it have to do with the current state of affairs?

              the entire comment chain talks about the past and how capitalism has (supposedly) improved conditions. (since that “improvement” is implied to have already happened by the past tense, we’re talking about the current system. without specifying anything about exactly “who” those conditions have improved for…conveniently)

              so i fail to see the connection to (largely) theoretical improvements to capitalism…

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    18 days ago

    I am afraid we are way past that point, it is more like a discussion between should we kill all billionaires or just -force redistribute their wealth or not draw 25 cards

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      18 days ago

      What relation this has with capitalism? Are you trying to claim capitalism created wealth concentration and reduced class mobility?

      Because that’s exactly what the OP is about.

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        18 days ago

        It isn’t about what evil capitalism created. It’s about what evil capitalism has enabled to be perfected at scale.

        I swear it’s like people want to be serfs.